(Source: oozmaart, via tamascotchi-deactivated20190101)
things that DO make this website “toxic”:
- adults holding young minors to the exact same standards as them
- staff ignoring literal nazis and pedophiles
- the popular idea on here that mildly (quote unquote) “problematic” statements always hold the exact same weight regardless of whether they were made 5 minutes ago or 5 years ago
- terfsthings that DON’T make this website “toxic”:
- calling white people “mayonnaise”
- kids still figuring out their respective mental states
- people constantly finding out new terms for whatever gender they want to identify by
- people identifying as otherkin and not even hurting anyone else by doing thatThe otherkin one is a bit iffy though. Like, if someone claims to be otherkin of a character you made as a coping mechanism then guilt tripping you for being mad that they are hijacking your coping character, then that is toxic.
okay, but that’s GUILT TRIPPING being toxic, not otherkinity being toxic?? that’s like saying stopsigns are dangerous because a murderer used one to chop somebody’s head off. the murderer is the dangerous part, not the stop sign. otherkinity isn’t toxic. period.
Even claiming to be the character someone else made to cope with something is toxic though since yo’re taking their pain and exploiting it. Like, if a schizophrenic makes a character based off of their hallucinations and you claim to be that character IRL, you’re a dick. And no, this isn’t some random scenario, this is something I’ve seen actually happen.
hi! are you schizophrenic? cause i am! you don’t get a say in that!
hi! are you otherkin? cause i am! you don’t get a say in that either!
hi! do you have proof or links or receipts? cause i haven’t seen em!
you’re reaching. so far. sooo far. ask somebody to pass you the fucking pasta reaching across the table like this is rude.@silver-tongues-blog also, you using the suffering of schizophrenics to try and prove your argument (that isn’t even about schizophrenia) is exploitation so go fuck yaself
And you’re overgeneralizing my statement. I said that claiming to be otherkin of someones coping character is toxic but you misconstrue that to encompass the entirety of otherkin.
Claiming to be otherkin of someones coping character IS toxic.
and you’re trying to use a specific made up example to demonize otherkin and make them seem toxic
yeah, claiming the identity of someone’s coping character is toxic
that isn’t otherkinity, that isn’t otherkin being toxic, that doesn’t make otherkin toxic
your argument is toxic though! nice how you’re ignoring the fact that you did the exact thing you said you were against: exploiting the pain of mentally ill people for your own benefitI’m not demonizing otherkin. I’m “demonizing” those who claim to be kin with someones coping character. you’re the one who is generalizing my statement.
So you’re saying that if someone has a character they use to cope with mental illness or trauma and someone claims kin with it, the creator isn’t allowed to do anyhting?
1: okay, don’t say otherkin are toxic then. they aren’t. say that people who exploit people’s coping mechanisms are toxic. that’s like saying water is bad because people have drowned in it. water isn’t bad, murder is bad. otherkin aren’t fucking toxic. OTHERKIN AREN’T FUCKING TOXIC. OTHERKIN. AREN’T. FUCKING. TOXIC.
2: where the fuck did i say that? where the fuck did i say that it’s okay for someone to claim kin with a coping character? find that. find it. i’ve been saying that people SHOULDN’T do that this entire fucking time, and that people actually DON’T do it cause they’re decent fucking people. you still have yet to supply an example of someone claiming kin with a coping character against their wishes. most otherkin ARE OTHERKIN for fucking COPING REASONS!! shocker! stop making shit up oh my god
1) Otherkin arn’t toxic, the ones who claim to be someone elses coping character are
2) you’re getting mad at me for saying that people who claim to be someones coping character are toxic so I assumed you think that’s permissible.
i’m not! getting mad at you! for saying people who claim to be a coping character! are toxic! I WAS! AGREEING WITH YOU! THAT CLAIMING TO BE A COPING CHARACTER! IS TOXIC!
i was getting MAD AT YOU for using the made up example of somebody doing a shitty thing (such as claiming the identity of a coping character) and trying to apply the example that never happened to an entire group of people who would never do that
“the otherkin one is iffy” you said
otherkin are toxic is what you meant. that is what that meant. august said otherkin weren’t toxic and you disagreed with them. period.otherkin! AREN’T TOXIC! people who claim the identity of coping characters ARE TOXIC! but guess what? PEOPLE WHO CLAIM THE IDENTITY OF COPING CHARACTERS
A R E N ’ T
O T H E R K I NI wasn’t using it to condemn an entire group. I never said that all otherkin are bad. I said just the ones who claim to be someone elses coping character are.
Did… Did you not even read any of this?
did you not even read any of this? you’re still refusing to acknowledge the fact that you fucked up by exploiting schizophrenic people’s pain to try and prove a shitty point
you’re refusing to acknowledge that your initial argument was literally that otherkin are toxic
you TRIED TO SAY THAT I SUPPORTED PEOPLE EXPLOITING A SCHIZOPHRENIC’S COPING CHARACTERS?? AFTER I SAID I WAS SCHIZOPHRENIC MYSELF AND THAT THOSE KINDS OF PEOPLE ARE PIECES OF SHIT??
you’re ignoring everything
you aren’t even twisting my words you’re just pulling shit out of thin air to try and cover your ass
admit you were wrongThat’s because you started yelling at me before I even mention schizophrenics. If you weren’t defending people who claim to be kin with someone scoping character, then what was the point of your initial statements
THE POINT OF MY INITIAL STATEMENTS WAS THAT OTHERKIN AREN’T THOSE SHITTY PEOPLE
THE POINT OF MY INITIAL STATEMENTS WAS THAT, YEAH, IT’S FUCKING HORRIBLE TO DO THAT, I HATE THEM AND DON’T SUPPORT THEM
THE POINT OF MY INITIAL STATEMENTS WAS THAT OTHERKIN AND GUILT TRIPPERS ARENT THE SAME THING
THIS WHOLE TIME I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DEFEND OTHERKIN
I WASNT AT ALL, EVER, NOT EVEN ONCE DEFENDING PEOPLE CLAIMING THE IDENTITY OF COPING CHARACTERS
I WAS CONDEMNING THEM AND THEIR ACTIONS AND TRYING TO GET IT THROUGH YOUR IGNORANT SKULL THAT THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM OTHERKIN
Okay, I see. You’re mad about the no true Scotsman fallacy. Oh oh they’re no real whatever.
(via movedtocatchurch-deactivated201)
things that DO make this website “toxic”:
- adults holding young minors to the exact same standards as them
- staff ignoring literal nazis and pedophiles
- the popular idea on here that mildly (quote unquote) “problematic” statements always hold the exact same weight regardless of whether they were made 5 minutes ago or 5 years ago
- terfsthings that DON’T make this website “toxic”:
- calling white people “mayonnaise”
- kids still figuring out their respective mental states
- people constantly finding out new terms for whatever gender they want to identify by
- people identifying as otherkin and not even hurting anyone else by doing thatThe otherkin one is a bit iffy though. Like, if someone claims to be otherkin of a character you made as a coping mechanism then guilt tripping you for being mad that they are hijacking your coping character, then that is toxic.
okay, but that’s GUILT TRIPPING being toxic, not otherkinity being toxic?? that’s like saying stopsigns are dangerous because a murderer used one to chop somebody’s head off. the murderer is the dangerous part, not the stop sign. otherkinity isn’t toxic. period.
Even claiming to be the character someone else made to cope with something is toxic though since yo’re taking their pain and exploiting it. Like, if a schizophrenic makes a character based off of their hallucinations and you claim to be that character IRL, you’re a dick. And no, this isn’t some random scenario, this is something I’ve seen actually happen.
hi! are you schizophrenic? cause i am! you don’t get a say in that!
hi! are you otherkin? cause i am! you don’t get a say in that either!
hi! do you have proof or links or receipts? cause i haven’t seen em!
you’re reaching. so far. sooo far. ask somebody to pass you the fucking pasta reaching across the table like this is rude.@silver-tongues-blog also, you using the suffering of schizophrenics to try and prove your argument (that isn’t even about schizophrenia) is exploitation so go fuck yaself
And you’re overgeneralizing my statement. I said that claiming to be otherkin of someones coping character is toxic but you misconstrue that to encompass the entirety of otherkin.
Claiming to be otherkin of someones coping character IS toxic.
and you’re trying to use a specific made up example to demonize otherkin and make them seem toxic
yeah, claiming the identity of someone’s coping character is toxic
that isn’t otherkinity, that isn’t otherkin being toxic, that doesn’t make otherkin toxic
your argument is toxic though! nice how you’re ignoring the fact that you did the exact thing you said you were against: exploiting the pain of mentally ill people for your own benefitI’m not demonizing otherkin. I’m “demonizing” those who claim to be kin with someones coping character. you’re the one who is generalizing my statement.
So you’re saying that if someone has a character they use to cope with mental illness or trauma and someone claims kin with it, the creator isn’t allowed to do anyhting?
1: okay, don’t say otherkin are toxic then. they aren’t. say that people who exploit people’s coping mechanisms are toxic. that’s like saying water is bad because people have drowned in it. water isn’t bad, murder is bad. otherkin aren’t fucking toxic. OTHERKIN AREN’T FUCKING TOXIC. OTHERKIN. AREN’T. FUCKING. TOXIC.
2: where the fuck did i say that? where the fuck did i say that it’s okay for someone to claim kin with a coping character? find that. find it. i’ve been saying that people SHOULDN’T do that this entire fucking time, and that people actually DON’T do it cause they’re decent fucking people. you still have yet to supply an example of someone claiming kin with a coping character against their wishes. most otherkin ARE OTHERKIN for fucking COPING REASONS!! shocker! stop making shit up oh my god
1) Otherkin arn’t toxic, the ones who claim to be someone elses coping character are
2) you’re getting mad at me for saying that people who claim to be someones coping character are toxic so I assumed you think that’s permissible.
i’m not! getting mad at you! for saying people who claim to be a coping character! are toxic! I WAS! AGREEING WITH YOU! THAT CLAIMING TO BE A COPING CHARACTER! IS TOXIC!
i was getting MAD AT YOU for using the made up example of somebody doing a shitty thing (such as claiming the identity of a coping character) and trying to apply the example that never happened to an entire group of people who would never do that
“the otherkin one is iffy” you said
otherkin are toxic is what you meant. that is what that meant. august said otherkin weren’t toxic and you disagreed with them. period.otherkin! AREN’T TOXIC! people who claim the identity of coping characters ARE TOXIC! but guess what? PEOPLE WHO CLAIM THE IDENTITY OF COPING CHARACTERS
A R E N ’ T
O T H E R K I NI wasn’t using it to condemn an entire group. I never said that all otherkin are bad. I said just the ones who claim to be someone elses coping character are.
Did… Did you not even read any of this?
did you not even read any of this? you’re still refusing to acknowledge the fact that you fucked up by exploiting schizophrenic people’s pain to try and prove a shitty point
you’re refusing to acknowledge that your initial argument was literally that otherkin are toxic
you TRIED TO SAY THAT I SUPPORTED PEOPLE EXPLOITING A SCHIZOPHRENIC’S COPING CHARACTERS?? AFTER I SAID I WAS SCHIZOPHRENIC MYSELF AND THAT THOSE KINDS OF PEOPLE ARE PIECES OF SHIT??
you’re ignoring everything
you aren’t even twisting my words you’re just pulling shit out of thin air to try and cover your ass
admit you were wrong
That’s because you started yelling at me before I even mention schizophrenics. If you weren’t defending people who claim to be kin with someone scoping character, then what was the point of your initial statements
(via movedtocatchurch-deactivated201)
things that DO make this website “toxic”:
- adults holding young minors to the exact same standards as them
- staff ignoring literal nazis and pedophiles
- the popular idea on here that mildly (quote unquote) “problematic” statements always hold the exact same weight regardless of whether they were made 5 minutes ago or 5 years ago
- terfsthings that DON’T make this website “toxic”:
- calling white people “mayonnaise”
- kids still figuring out their respective mental states
- people constantly finding out new terms for whatever gender they want to identify by
- people identifying as otherkin and not even hurting anyone else by doing thatThe otherkin one is a bit iffy though. Like, if someone claims to be otherkin of a character you made as a coping mechanism then guilt tripping you for being mad that they are hijacking your coping character, then that is toxic.
okay, but that’s GUILT TRIPPING being toxic, not otherkinity being toxic?? that’s like saying stopsigns are dangerous because a murderer used one to chop somebody’s head off. the murderer is the dangerous part, not the stop sign. otherkinity isn’t toxic. period.
Even claiming to be the character someone else made to cope with something is toxic though since yo’re taking their pain and exploiting it. Like, if a schizophrenic makes a character based off of their hallucinations and you claim to be that character IRL, you’re a dick. And no, this isn’t some random scenario, this is something I’ve seen actually happen.
hi! are you schizophrenic? cause i am! you don’t get a say in that!
hi! are you otherkin? cause i am! you don’t get a say in that either!
hi! do you have proof or links or receipts? cause i haven’t seen em!
you’re reaching. so far. sooo far. ask somebody to pass you the fucking pasta reaching across the table like this is rude.I literally said don’t claim to be otehrkin with someones character they use to cope with serious things. That’s why I used the word iffy because some otherkin is okay but some isn’t. And here is the specific example I was referencing.
At the very bottom they list certain characters they have which they do not wish to have people tag as kin for various reasons and #4 is because it’s a character they use to cope with their schizophrenia.
oh hey they said not to do that! that’s not an example of somebody going against them and doing it!!
“hey don’t murder this guy”
“OH MY GOD EVERYONE IS MURDERING THIS GUY SEE CAUSE THEY SAID NOT TO”
what the fuck???what the fuckActually it’s more like “please dont’ claim to be a character I created to cope with my schizophrenia”
“please don’t claim to be the character i created to cope with my schizophrenia”
(nobody does that)
some idiot without schizophrenia: LOOK AT HOW EVIL OTHERKIN ARE THEY’RE CLAIMING TO BE THIS CHARACTERthere we go are ya happier now
You seriously believe there arne’t peopel who do that? Why don’t you ask @deoxyrebornicleic about that and I’m sure they will tell you another story.
Also that analogy doesn’t work it’s more like “LOOK AT THIS PERSON WHO IS CLAIMING TO BE THE REAL LIFE REPRESENTATION OF MY HALUCINATION!”
OKAY HEY GUESS WHAT YOU SHOULD’VE STOPPED DOING AWHILE AGO:
USING SCHIZOPHRENICS’ SUFFERING TO TRY AND SUPPORT YOUR ARGUMENT YOU PIECE OF SHIT!LOOK AT THIS PERSON WHO IS TRYING TO USE MY HALLUCINATIONS AND STRUGGLES TO TRY AND DEMONIZE INNOCENT PEOPLE!!
also didn’t you just say, and i quote:
“Actually it’s more like “please dont’ claim to be a character I created to cope with my schizophrenia””you have yet to supply me with an example of someone legitimately claiming the identity of a coping character against the creator’s wishes
go fuck yourself you ableist piece of shit
Except I didn’t even mention schizophrenics until you accused me of guilt tripping, I just said claiming kin with someones coping mechinism is wrong.
i didn’t accuse you of guilt tripping holy shit read the fucking arguments for once
i said that guilt tripping people was wrong and that guilt tripping wasn’t the fucking same as being otherkin
and you were like “LOOK AT HOW MUCH SCHIZOPHRENICS ARE SUFFERING IM GONNA USE THAT IN THIS TOTALLY UNRELATED ARGUMENT AND IM NOT EVEN SCHIZOPHRENIC”
the fuck is wrong with you
You still went off the rails before I even mentioned a schizophrenic. You’re still defending people who claim to be kin with someone else’s coping character.
(via movedtocatchurch-deactivated201)
things that DO make this website “toxic”:
- adults holding young minors to the exact same standards as them
- staff ignoring literal nazis and pedophiles
- the popular idea on here that mildly (quote unquote) “problematic” statements always hold the exact same weight regardless of whether they were made 5 minutes ago or 5 years ago
- terfsthings that DON’T make this website “toxic”:
- calling white people “mayonnaise”
- kids still figuring out their respective mental states
- people constantly finding out new terms for whatever gender they want to identify by
- people identifying as otherkin and not even hurting anyone else by doing thatThe otherkin one is a bit iffy though. Like, if someone claims to be otherkin of a character you made as a coping mechanism then guilt tripping you for being mad that they are hijacking your coping character, then that is toxic.
okay, but that’s GUILT TRIPPING being toxic, not otherkinity being toxic?? that’s like saying stopsigns are dangerous because a murderer used one to chop somebody’s head off. the murderer is the dangerous part, not the stop sign. otherkinity isn’t toxic. period.
Even claiming to be the character someone else made to cope with something is toxic though since yo’re taking their pain and exploiting it. Like, if a schizophrenic makes a character based off of their hallucinations and you claim to be that character IRL, you’re a dick. And no, this isn’t some random scenario, this is something I’ve seen actually happen.
hi! are you schizophrenic? cause i am! you don’t get a say in that!
hi! are you otherkin? cause i am! you don’t get a say in that either!
hi! do you have proof or links or receipts? cause i haven’t seen em!
you’re reaching. so far. sooo far. ask somebody to pass you the fucking pasta reaching across the table like this is rude.I literally said don’t claim to be otehrkin with someones character they use to cope with serious things. That’s why I used the word iffy because some otherkin is okay but some isn’t. And here is the specific example I was referencing.
At the very bottom they list certain characters they have which they do not wish to have people tag as kin for various reasons and #4 is because it’s a character they use to cope with their schizophrenia.
oh hey they said not to do that! that’s not an example of somebody going against them and doing it!!
“hey don’t murder this guy”
“OH MY GOD EVERYONE IS MURDERING THIS GUY SEE CAUSE THEY SAID NOT TO”
what the fuck???what the fuckActually it’s more like “please dont’ claim to be a character I created to cope with my schizophrenia”
“please don’t claim to be the character i created to cope with my schizophrenia”
(nobody does that)
some idiot without schizophrenia: LOOK AT HOW EVIL OTHERKIN ARE THEY’RE CLAIMING TO BE THIS CHARACTERthere we go are ya happier now
You seriously believe there arne’t peopel who do that? Why don’t you ask @deoxyrebornicleic about that and I’m sure they will tell you another story.
Also that analogy doesn’t work it’s more like “LOOK AT THIS PERSON WHO IS CLAIMING TO BE THE REAL LIFE REPRESENTATION OF MY HALUCINATION!”
OKAY HEY GUESS WHAT YOU SHOULD’VE STOPPED DOING AWHILE AGO:
USING SCHIZOPHRENICS’ SUFFERING TO TRY AND SUPPORT YOUR ARGUMENT YOU PIECE OF SHIT!LOOK AT THIS PERSON WHO IS TRYING TO USE MY HALLUCINATIONS AND STRUGGLES TO TRY AND DEMONIZE INNOCENT PEOPLE!!
also didn’t you just say, and i quote:
“Actually it’s more like “please dont’ claim to be a character I created to cope with my schizophrenia””you have yet to supply me with an example of someone legitimately claiming the identity of a coping character against the creator’s wishes
go fuck yourself you ableist piece of shit
Except I didn’t even mention schizophrenics until you accused me of guilt tripping, I just said claiming kin with someones coping mechinism is wrong.
(via movedtocatchurch-deactivated201)
Honestly, people who only read like half of something deserve to be made a fool of
Seriosuly it’s like
Me: Claiming to be someone elses coping character is toxic
THem: UM YOU"RE GUILT TRIPPING ALL OF OTHERKIN AND ARE TOXIC
Me:??????????
Honestly, people who only read like half of something deserve to be made a fool of
things that DO make this website “toxic”:
- adults holding young minors to the exact same standards as them
- staff ignoring literal nazis and pedophiles
- the popular idea on here that mildly (quote unquote) “problematic” statements always hold the exact same weight regardless of whether they were made 5 minutes ago or 5 years ago
- terfsthings that DON’T make this website “toxic”:
- calling white people “mayonnaise”
- kids still figuring out their respective mental states
- people constantly finding out new terms for whatever gender they want to identify by
- people identifying as otherkin and not even hurting anyone else by doing thatThe otherkin one is a bit iffy though. Like, if someone claims to be otherkin of a character you made as a coping mechanism then guilt tripping you for being mad that they are hijacking your coping character, then that is toxic.
okay, but that’s GUILT TRIPPING being toxic, not otherkinity being toxic?? that’s like saying stopsigns are dangerous because a murderer used one to chop somebody’s head off. the murderer is the dangerous part, not the stop sign. otherkinity isn’t toxic. period.
Even claiming to be the character someone else made to cope with something is toxic though since yo’re taking their pain and exploiting it. Like, if a schizophrenic makes a character based off of their hallucinations and you claim to be that character IRL, you’re a dick. And no, this isn’t some random scenario, this is something I’ve seen actually happen.
hi! are you schizophrenic? cause i am! you don’t get a say in that!
hi! are you otherkin? cause i am! you don’t get a say in that either!
hi! do you have proof or links or receipts? cause i haven’t seen em!
you’re reaching. so far. sooo far. ask somebody to pass you the fucking pasta reaching across the table like this is rude.@silver-tongues-blog also, you using the suffering of schizophrenics to try and prove your argument (that isn’t even about schizophrenia) is exploitation so go fuck yaself
And you’re overgeneralizing my statement. I said that claiming to be otherkin of someones coping character is toxic but you misconstrue that to encompass the entirety of otherkin.
Claiming to be otherkin of someones coping character IS toxic.
and you’re trying to use a specific made up example to demonize otherkin and make them seem toxic
yeah, claiming the identity of someone’s coping character is toxic
that isn’t otherkinity, that isn’t otherkin being toxic, that doesn’t make otherkin toxic
your argument is toxic though! nice how you’re ignoring the fact that you did the exact thing you said you were against: exploiting the pain of mentally ill people for your own benefitI’m not demonizing otherkin. I’m “demonizing” those who claim to be kin with someones coping character. you’re the one who is generalizing my statement.
So you’re saying that if someone has a character they use to cope with mental illness or trauma and someone claims kin with it, the creator isn’t allowed to do anyhting?
1: okay, don’t say otherkin are toxic then. they aren’t. say that people who exploit people’s coping mechanisms are toxic. that’s like saying water is bad because people have drowned in it. water isn’t bad, murder is bad. otherkin aren’t fucking toxic. OTHERKIN AREN’T FUCKING TOXIC. OTHERKIN. AREN’T. FUCKING. TOXIC.
2: where the fuck did i say that? where the fuck did i say that it’s okay for someone to claim kin with a coping character? find that. find it. i’ve been saying that people SHOULDN’T do that this entire fucking time, and that people actually DON’T do it cause they’re decent fucking people. you still have yet to supply an example of someone claiming kin with a coping character against their wishes. most otherkin ARE OTHERKIN for fucking COPING REASONS!! shocker! stop making shit up oh my god
1) Otherkin arn’t toxic, the ones who claim to be someone elses coping character are
2) you’re getting mad at me for saying that people who claim to be someones coping character are toxic so I assumed you think that’s permissible.
i’m not! getting mad at you! for saying people who claim to be a coping character! are toxic! I WAS! AGREEING WITH YOU! THAT CLAIMING TO BE A COPING CHARACTER! IS TOXIC!
i was getting MAD AT YOU for using the made up example of somebody doing a shitty thing (such as claiming the identity of a coping character) and trying to apply the example that never happened to an entire group of people who would never do that
“the otherkin one is iffy” you said
otherkin are toxic is what you meant. that is what that meant. august said otherkin weren’t toxic and you disagreed with them. period.otherkin! AREN’T TOXIC! people who claim the identity of coping characters ARE TOXIC! but guess what? PEOPLE WHO CLAIM THE IDENTITY OF COPING CHARACTERS
A R E N ’ T
O T H E R K I N
I wasn’t using it to condemn an entire group. I never said that all otherkin are bad. I said just the ones who claim to be someone elses coping character are.
Did… Did you not even read any of this?
(via movedtocatchurch-deactivated201)
things that DO make this website “toxic”:
- adults holding young minors to the exact same standards as them
- staff ignoring literal nazis and pedophiles
- the popular idea on here that mildly (quote unquote) “problematic” statements always hold the exact same weight regardless of whether they were made 5 minutes ago or 5 years ago
- terfsthings that DON’T make this website “toxic”:
- calling white people “mayonnaise”
- kids still figuring out their respective mental states
- people constantly finding out new terms for whatever gender they want to identify by
- people identifying as otherkin and not even hurting anyone else by doing thatThe otherkin one is a bit iffy though. Like, if someone claims to be otherkin of a character you made as a coping mechanism then guilt tripping you for being mad that they are hijacking your coping character, then that is toxic.
okay, but that’s GUILT TRIPPING being toxic, not otherkinity being toxic?? that’s like saying stopsigns are dangerous because a murderer used one to chop somebody’s head off. the murderer is the dangerous part, not the stop sign. otherkinity isn’t toxic. period.
Even claiming to be the character someone else made to cope with something is toxic though since yo’re taking their pain and exploiting it. Like, if a schizophrenic makes a character based off of their hallucinations and you claim to be that character IRL, you’re a dick. And no, this isn’t some random scenario, this is something I’ve seen actually happen.
hi! are you schizophrenic? cause i am! you don’t get a say in that!
hi! are you otherkin? cause i am! you don’t get a say in that either!
hi! do you have proof or links or receipts? cause i haven’t seen em!
you’re reaching. so far. sooo far. ask somebody to pass you the fucking pasta reaching across the table like this is rude.I literally said don’t claim to be otehrkin with someones character they use to cope with serious things. That’s why I used the word iffy because some otherkin is okay but some isn’t. And here is the specific example I was referencing.
At the very bottom they list certain characters they have which they do not wish to have people tag as kin for various reasons and #4 is because it’s a character they use to cope with their schizophrenia.
oh hey they said not to do that! that’s not an example of somebody going against them and doing it!!
“hey don’t murder this guy”
“OH MY GOD EVERYONE IS MURDERING THIS GUY SEE CAUSE THEY SAID NOT TO”
what the fuck???what the fuckActually it’s more like “please dont’ claim to be a character I created to cope with my schizophrenia”
“please don’t claim to be the character i created to cope with my schizophrenia”
(nobody does that)
some idiot without schizophrenia: LOOK AT HOW EVIL OTHERKIN ARE THEY’RE CLAIMING TO BE THIS CHARACTERthere we go are ya happier now
You seriously believe there arne’t peopel who do that? Why don’t you ask @deoxyrebornicleic about that and I’m sure they will tell you another story.
Also that analogy doesn’t work it’s more like “LOOK AT THIS PERSON WHO IS CLAIMING TO BE THE REAL LIFE REPRESENTATION OF MY HALUCINATION!”
(via movedtocatchurch-deactivated201)
things that DO make this website “toxic”:
- adults holding young minors to the exact same standards as them
- staff ignoring literal nazis and pedophiles
- the popular idea on here that mildly (quote unquote) “problematic” statements always hold the exact same weight regardless of whether they were made 5 minutes ago or 5 years ago
- terfsthings that DON’T make this website “toxic”:
- calling white people “mayonnaise”
- kids still figuring out their respective mental states
- people constantly finding out new terms for whatever gender they want to identify by
- people identifying as otherkin and not even hurting anyone else by doing thatThe otherkin one is a bit iffy though. Like, if someone claims to be otherkin of a character you made as a coping mechanism then guilt tripping you for being mad that they are hijacking your coping character, then that is toxic.
okay, but that’s GUILT TRIPPING being toxic, not otherkinity being toxic?? that’s like saying stopsigns are dangerous because a murderer used one to chop somebody’s head off. the murderer is the dangerous part, not the stop sign. otherkinity isn’t toxic. period.
Even claiming to be the character someone else made to cope with something is toxic though since yo’re taking their pain and exploiting it. Like, if a schizophrenic makes a character based off of their hallucinations and you claim to be that character IRL, you’re a dick. And no, this isn’t some random scenario, this is something I’ve seen actually happen.
hi! are you schizophrenic? cause i am! you don’t get a say in that!
hi! are you otherkin? cause i am! you don’t get a say in that either!
hi! do you have proof or links or receipts? cause i haven’t seen em!
you’re reaching. so far. sooo far. ask somebody to pass you the fucking pasta reaching across the table like this is rude.@silver-tongues-blog also, you using the suffering of schizophrenics to try and prove your argument (that isn’t even about schizophrenia) is exploitation so go fuck yaself
And you’re overgeneralizing my statement. I said that claiming to be otherkin of someones coping character is toxic but you misconstrue that to encompass the entirety of otherkin.
Claiming to be otherkin of someones coping character IS toxic.
and you’re trying to use a specific made up example to demonize otherkin and make them seem toxic
yeah, claiming the identity of someone’s coping character is toxic
that isn’t otherkinity, that isn’t otherkin being toxic, that doesn’t make otherkin toxic
your argument is toxic though! nice how you’re ignoring the fact that you did the exact thing you said you were against: exploiting the pain of mentally ill people for your own benefitI’m not demonizing otherkin. I’m “demonizing” those who claim to be kin with someones coping character. you’re the one who is generalizing my statement.
So you’re saying that if someone has a character they use to cope with mental illness or trauma and someone claims kin with it, the creator isn’t allowed to do anyhting?
1: okay, don’t say otherkin are toxic then. they aren’t. say that people who exploit people’s coping mechanisms are toxic. that’s like saying water is bad because people have drowned in it. water isn’t bad, murder is bad. otherkin aren’t fucking toxic. OTHERKIN AREN’T FUCKING TOXIC. OTHERKIN. AREN’T. FUCKING. TOXIC.
2: where the fuck did i say that? where the fuck did i say that it’s okay for someone to claim kin with a coping character? find that. find it. i’ve been saying that people SHOULDN’T do that this entire fucking time, and that people actually DON’T do it cause they’re decent fucking people. you still have yet to supply an example of someone claiming kin with a coping character against their wishes. most otherkin ARE OTHERKIN for fucking COPING REASONS!! shocker! stop making shit up oh my god
1) Otherkin arn’t toxic, the ones who claim to be someone elses coping character are
2) you’re getting mad at me for saying that people who claim to be someones coping character are toxic so I assumed you think that’s permissible.