I would believe in rose quartz=pink diamond if someone could give me a reasonable explanation for 4 things:
why doesn’t steven know already? Shouldn’t the gems have told him that his mother was a ruler who turned away from her empire because she believed that everyone was equal?
If the gems haven’t told him for a good reason, surely he would have noticed a GIANT MURAL OF HIS MOTHER in “It could have been great” and like…. commented on it?
The other diamonds are HUGE. And as far as we can tell kinda spindly. Rose is tall but not as tall as they are, and shes nice and round.
Seriously explain the gem inconsistancy. Now we’ve seen that the other 3 gems have diamonds shaped like ♢, why would rose’s be the only one shaped like a circle? I used to subsribe to the theory that rose had a gem shaped like
💎 and we just see it from above, but now even that would be inconsistant from the rest of the diamonds.
The more I think about it, the more I’m convinced that rose CAN’T be pink diamond, but I would really like to hear other theories about possible explanation for these points. There’s a lot of good evidence FOR the rose diamond theory and I used to believe, so I haven’t written it off entirely yet.
1) They didn’t even tell steven they were aliens until lapis arrived. And they didn’t even explain anyhting about the diamonds. Peridot did.
2) We’ve really only seen ONE diamond. Blue diamond should not be counted yet as her appearance in the garnet origin story does not match her lunar mural like yellow diamonds does.
Also, the only other place we’ve seen hints of there being four diamonds has the statue corrosponding with the pink one destroyed.
It is entirely possible that the Diamonds of homeworld attempted to destroy evidence of pink diamond for her treachery.
3) Gems can shape shift. They can also choose their basic form when regenerating. Rose could have regenerated smaller (which is not the same as shape shifting as it would be permenant until her next regeneration)
4) Same as point 2. We don’t actually know if blue diamonds cut is that shape. until we see another diamond that isn’t in a flashback, I think it’s still up for grabs.
In the episode “It Could’ve Been Great,” Peridot explains that there were supposed to be numerous Kindergartens and Spires. This would further explain my theory of Lapis’ past. Lapis wasn’t part of Blue Diamond, but she was important to Blue Diamond.
First of all, the statue of the Lunar Goddess is actually Blue Diamond.
It appears she is holding one of the spheres that was seen in a room with water on the moon base.
So in the episode “Message Received,” we see Yellow for the first time (yay!) and are also able to see her base, which looks a great deal like the moon base. Since there are murals, like the ones in Serious Steven, which just further proves that that pyramid was White/Pink Diamond’s hideout, it is safe to say that the moon base is Blue Diamond’s old base.
Now the Spire’s get their names for each ambassador that stays there. For instance, Lapis lived at the Lunar Sea Spire.
Lunar = Relating to the Moon Goddess, Blue Diamond.
Sea = Water ambassador, Lapis Lazuli.
Now if Sapphire had a spire, it may be called the Lunar Polar Spire, since she controls ice.
everybody is theorizing on whether or not rose was pink diamond or not and specifically using the example that she’s not big enough
has everybody forgotten that a gem’s form is meaningless? gems can appear however they like (to a limit, I’m sure). Pearl and Garnet in particular have gone through countless changes of not only costume but also physical appearance, many of which are pretty major (consider, initial garnet vs our garnet).
A gem’s physical appearance is very much based on their self confidence, their intent, their purpose, their maturity, their focus in the moment of reforming. We see that Amethyst choses a small form because she was ‘born’ that way but also because it’s most comfortable for her personality. when she reforms she demonstrates that it’s possible for gems to reform as being bigger than their ‘natural’ state, but it’s especially hard for amethyst because she’s overcooked. by this we can also assume that gems can reform to appear smaller.
If you are Pink Diamond, and you have splinted from Homeworld and your dominion to try and protect earth, and your most important forces consist almost entirely of hundreds of gems who want individuality and respect regardless of class and view value in the life of others, why would you want to appear as the dominating, huge, imposing Pink Diamond of Homeworld? Rose wanted to dismantle the class gap between gems so that everybody was equal. It would be completely counter productive and hypocritical for her to appear as her Pink Diamond form when she and the earth rebellion are fighting against the diamonds.
So why wouldn’t she choose a less intimidating form? If she is Pink Diamond, it’s more than likely she has the power and focus to change her appearance drastically, and keep it for millennia, in comparison to Amethyst who was already born abnormally tiny and had difficulty keeping a larger form. Not only does she become much more relatable to the crystal gems and the earth rebellion but it’s another way to sever her tie with Homeworld and her fellow diamonds.
The same concept can be used with her name. Rose abandoned Homeworld and the diamond authority and wanted to cut all ties with them. She lead the rebellion not as their overlord but as a soldier, an equal, one who did not treat her friends and warriors as lesser in cast than her. Why would you want to keep the name Pink Diamond when you were no longer part of the diamond authority? Why not take up a different name to show your split from Homeworld and your previous existence as a ruler and dictator? Why not choose one of the most common and abundant stones on earth, quartz, and why not choose the one stone that is most associated with healing, love and compassion?
We have never seen a complete and detailed image of Pink Diamond. In every situation where it would have been possible to see a full image of Pink Diamond, it has not been shown to the audience (’It Could Have Been Great’ for example). We know that at some point after Rose left homeworld and the Gems were fought off Earth, the Homeworld gems removed Pink Diamond from any designs. If Rose was not meant to be Pink Diamond, why would Pink Diamond’s existence and appearance be so secret to the viewers? EVERYTHING we have seen points to Rose being Pink Diamond. The idea that because she is not big enough and has a different name are total moot points based on what has already been established time and time again in the series. The only solid point that could disprove this is the shape of Rose’s gem.