tumblr’s “you know he dead” and 4chan’s “did he died” are good examples of convergent meme evolution, in which two memes have evolved to fill similar linguistic niches in separate locations
d’you think the avengers ever play a game where they try to push steve’s buttons and get him all riled up and patriotic?
tony casually throws it into a conversation like “oh yeah I don’t vote” and steve trails off mid-sentence and gapes for a second before he starts in on the importance of the democratic process and how dangerous it can be if citizens give up their say in how the government is run and tony is trying so so hard to keep a straight face
meanwhile bruce is standing in the background timing the speech with his watch because whoever gets the longest rant wins a little trophy that tony made. the current holder of the trophy is clint who managed to convince steve that he doesn’t pay taxes
naomiknight17-blog asked: I am not saying anyone's feelings don't matter. I am saying that cis folks are not bullied for being cis. Trans folks are. We're comparing something that happens to something that doesn't. Trans people saying they're sick of how cis people treat them is not bullying - it is oppressed people expressing how they feel. These are completely different things!
Just because you specifically haven’t seen something happen, doesn’t mean it doesn’t.
I really can’t imagine even how a cis person would be bullied for being cis??
Is this something you or someone you know has experienced??
Cis is considered ‘normal’. Expected. Accepted.
Has anyone ever been bullied for being ‘normal’?
I have 3 little lovely words that many cis people have come to fear
“Check your privileges”
They have been getting bullied.
Quite a lot, actually. If you are a cis white male, and express yourself as such, people are going to make these assumptions:
-You objectify women, no exception
-You’re not a nice person, it’s literally impossible. You’re male scum. This is why “not all men” is commonly made fun of
-You’re a privileged piece of shit who has no right to be around trans people
-You’re normal, therefor you can’t possibly have any mental problems and if you dare to express that you do you will have SJW’s breathing down your back telling you to shut up because “you don’t understand oppression”
-Women can’t rape you, that’s impossible, cis white men can’t be raped
I have some Cis friends who come to me sometimes actually TERRIFIED they’ll say the wrong things. Ashamed of themselves for being who they are because they are shamed for not being different.
That is bullying. That is oppression.
Why do you think “cis scum” is a commonly used term?
I’ve been told to check my privilege, and you know what? I checked my privilege! And I realized, oh, hey, maybe I’m actually wrong about this thing because I am not actually a part of it.
Bullying because someone is male and bullying because they are cis is not the same thing. Same with the whole men can’t be raped thing - it’s bullshit, absolute bullshit, but it’s about patriarchal expectations of men, not of all cis people.
I can kind of see where you’re coming from with the whole “You’re normal so you can’t have problems” but that happens to practically everyone. White people. Men. Well-off people.
I am sad to hear that you have cis friends who are afraid of saying the wrong thing. That sucks. But don’t trans people have those same worries? Don’t you or your trans friends ever fear reprisal for what you say? That’s normal, isn’t it?
I maintain that stuff like “cis scum” is really just oppressed people fighting back against their oppressors, and is not ‘bullying’ any more than standing up for yourself in any other situation would be.
There is a HUGE difference between oppressed people fighting back and making their problems and feelings known, and the oppressor stomping them down.
And the reason ‘not all men’ is made fun of is because that phrase is constantly used to shout down and shut up feminist arguments, and it’s a weak excuse.
If you’re part of a group that’s receiving criticism, it’s best to look at yourself and your friends and determine if that criticism is valid, not to just immediately shout “BUT NOT ME!!” because that just absolves you of any responsibility and allows you to dismiss the complaint or problem, and that doesn’t help anybody.
Just because I’ve been oppressed doesn’t mean I should turn a blind eye to any cis friends who have been bullied and harassed for being cis on tumblr.
It’s not a public society thing no, but it’s an internet thing, and plenty of people are far more sensitive than you might be.
It’s not oppressed people fighting against their oppressors.
It’s trans people lashing out against groups as a whole for what some members of said group have done.
What you’re doing right now is a part of that.
You’re claiming that they’re normal, they can’t compare to trans, they can’t understand oppression like we can. To assume someone defending themselves as a good person is them ‘dismissing’ responsibility is a form of oppression.
It’s just as bad as “all bronies are pedophiles” and “all gay people just want sex and don’t love” or that all trans people are just “sick perverts who are ashamed of themselves”.
Or, dare I say, you may as well tell a black person that they should take responsibility for all the bad things black people have supposedly done.
It’s generalizing. Generalizing isn’t okay and just because someone may not know certain problems that another may have it’s not ever okay to compare problems because one thing that may not affect you ldrive another person to suicide and you need to be aware that the weight of a problem is based on how it mentally damages a person, not by what the actual problem is.
Don’t ever. Excuse. Attacking people/ Just because they happen to be a part of a group they can’t help.
They didn’t CHOOSE to be Cis.
They shouldn’t have to be forced to take responsibility for every shitty thing a fellow cis person has done.
Being cis is normative and common, so of course there are going to be a lot of assholes in there. But to shun cis people and act like they can’t be hurt by people unfairly lashing out at them isn’t okay.
I hope this lets you think things over a bit cuz I know you’re a nice person and it’s hard to understand issues like this when you don’t see them happening.
I just don’t think it’s okay to attack people for things they didn’t do or didn’t mean to do, and I don’t think it’s okay to tell someone their problems don’t matter as much as someone else’s.
rosexknight Has been bullied because she is cis and straight.
