my favorite scene in LotR as a kid was when Sam started miserably freestyling in the tower of Cirith Ungol and the only reason he ever found Frodo was because he deliriously tried to join in
…i did read some of the novels, but i couldn’t get through them entirely…
…and so i genuinely have no idea whether or not this is serious. coz i mean, obviously, it could be a joke. but it could also have legitimately happened. people who have only seen the films underestimate the amount of random things that happen in the books that could come off as utterly silly and ridiculous if removed from their context.
Haha, well, it is pretty much what happens. Sam is looking for Frodo in the tower of Cirith Ungol and is despairing that he will ever find him. He sits down and does what any self-respecting Tolkien character does during their moments of hopelessness and bursts into song.
It’s a really good song (ten year old Ship had it memorized) and as he begins the refrain a second time, he hears Frodo’s voice answering weakly from above. Frodo is poisoned and despairing and beaten but he is still a Hobbit and cannot resist a singalong even while on the brink of death.
people have pointed out before that zuko probably didn’t actually know any of the gaang’s names before joining their group. according to the data i’ve collected, it is unclear as to whether zuko knew any of their names before “the boiling rock,” in which he addresses sokka by name multiple times. at no point in the show does he refer to toph, suki, or momo by name.
i find it particularly funny that zuko only seems to refer to katara by name after sokka says her name during their conversation in his tent; the transcript for “the southern raiders” reads as follows:
Sokka: So what’s on your mind?
Zuko: Your sister. She hates me! And I don’t know why, but I do care what she thinks of me.
Sokka: Nah, she doesn’t hate you. Katara doesn’t hate anyone. Except maybe some people in the Fire Nation. No, I mean, uh, not people who are good, but used to be bad. I mean, bad people. Fire Nation people who are still bad, who’ve never been good and probably won’t be, ever!
Zuko: Stop. Okay, listen. I know this may seem out of nowhere, but I want you to tell me what happened to your mother.
Sokka: What? Why would you want to know that?
Zuko: Katara mentioned it before when we were imprisoned together in Ba Sing Se, and again just now when she was yelling at me.
we can thus assume that zuko went into this conversation knowing katara only as “[sokka’s] sister,” heard sokka refer to someone named “katara,” and finally connected the dots.
i think the gaang according to zuko is just “the avatar, the avatar’s bison, the avatar’s…. little rat thing, sokka, sokka’s sister, sokka’s girlfriend, and, yknow, uhhhhh, the little green one.”
Consider: Since she’s a Celebrity, Zuko knows who Toph is, but he only knows her by her stage name, The Blind Bandit.
So it’s “The Avatar, the Avatar’s moderately terrifying pets, Sokka, Sokka’s terrifying sister, Sokka’s girlfriend and In-Universe Hulk Hogan, for some reason.”
Imagine running down a group of kids throughout the world, and you finally join two teenagers, the most powerful 12 yr old in the world, the girl whose village you burned down and John Cena.
to be fair, the ember island players DID state tophs name. “my name is toph, because it sounds like tough!” so he definitely learned her name at least there at the play.
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