twenty years ago there was a big to-do all about this new website called Ask Jeeves. back then, if you wanted to search the web, you used yahoo search, and back then, search indexing was SHIT
if you didn’t use the exact correct phrasing in your query, you didn’t find anything you wanted. and this was hard for humans to handle, because we’re used to asking questions, not parsing pieces of information into the most efficient phrases that will relate to larger banks of information
i was 8. i still read zoobooks. yahoo search was both dazzling and monumentally frustrating to me
so the thing about askjeeves.com was… you ask the search engine a question, and it uses algorithms to interpret your query to gather information, and respond to you in a human way. it was groundbreaking
two years later, google hit the web. i still remember being in the computer lab doing a research project and having a teacher tell me, “try this new search engine, its better than yahoo”
im telling you this because i know there are kids who were born into the age of Google… how good it got and how fast
because back then, search indexing still fucking SUCKED. back then there were people you knew who were “good at google” because you still needed to plug in the right words to find the right pages
today, i could reach into my pocket and pull out a device that both sees and hears me, and slur into the microphone “when was the sun born” and google will deliver me its age and all the theories and information surrounding the creation of our solar system
thats a lot of power to have. and when its that easy to get answers i want the comfort of knowing that you’re all taking the time to ask questions
This actually does work
Kids these days will never know the experience of asking Jeeves if he’s gay
adult’s movies: sex, explosions, yelling, cheap love story
kid’s movies: deep heart-wrenching death, moments where you question your own values, humor, adult jokes splashed in, the secret to the entire universe, sometimes explosions too
“I dunno man, kid’s movies are just kinda dumb”
have u ever watched a good adult movie or did u just watch transformers and think, ‘yep this is as good as it’s gonna get’
please name an adult movie that isnt just sex, explosions, yelling and a cheap (and unbelievable) love story
Poking over a list of successful r-rated movies to jog my memory:
Terminator 2
Highlander
Saving Private Ryan
The Green Mile and Shawshank Redemption (really just put the a majority of Stephen King, his books tend to get uncut, R-rated adaptions instead of being watered down).
Blazing Saddles
Some of Robin Williams’ more adult movies like Good Morning Vietnam and Good Will Hunting
One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest
Silence of the Lambs
All the Mad Max films
All the Alien Movies
That’s only the ones I’ve seen or know enough about to list in confidence because of glowing recommendations.
Don’t forget Pan’s Labyrinth
It’s important to note what the OP was talking about was a really flawed argument. Essentially a lowest common denominator versus High Art.
I mean…
Which one of these more exemplifies “deep heart-wrenching death, moments where you question your own values, humor, adult jokes splashed in, the secret to the entire universe, sometimes explosions too.”
Because I’m telling you it’s not the one that cast Rob Snyder.
The worst part about growing up was having to pledge my allegiance to the flag of The Netherlands every morning OH WAIT WE DON’T DO THAT BECAUSE THAT’S INSANE
yeah it’s fucking creepy and even worse in texas because we had to pledge our allegiance to texas as well. All it is is indoctrination and brainwashing kids to believe that there is nothing wrong with america. To put it in perspective, it’s essentially “there is no war in ba sing se” on a grand scale
where’s the interview w/ andy samberg where the interviewer asks about why there’s no jokes made around holt being gay and andy’s face twitches like “don’t do it.” and the interviewer goes on like “we live in such a weird PC culture though!” and andy laughs so uncomfortably i need it for science
The ironic thing is, there are plenty of jokes which involve him being gay. But it just doesn’t register as humor to those people if it’s not making fun of him for it, or using his sexuality as the actual punchline. A show actually respects its characters (for the most part) while still managing to provide top-notch humor and all a lot of people have to say is complaining about “pc culture”
i don’t understand how anyone who’s watched the episodes where ray holt pretends to be a hetero would ever believe that there are “no jokes about him being gay.”
because that’s not the problem. the problem is that the jokes about him being gay are specifically for an lgbtq audience. they’re jokes that heteros don’t understand because for once, we’re not the punchline like we usually are. we’re not being made fun of in a way that tears us down. they’re jokes about the absurdity of our existence. of having to fake being straight, even though a lot of us are actually really bad at it, and having straight people actually believe you.
the other really great example is that one joke ray holt makes in the first season, about how the hardest thing about being a gay black police officer in the nypd is the discrimination. that joke was funny for so many reasons, and yet, not a single straight person really got it when i watched it with them. it feels like there are no jokes because the jokes aren’t intended for straight/homophobic people, where the punchline isn’t all about how they relate to us. it’s about how we relate to them for once, and that’s the greatest thing.
other show’s lgbt jokes are “loltranswomen” or “lol flamboyant gay men”
brooklyn nine nine’s lgbt jokes are “we got married as quickly as we could bc we were worried they’d repeal it” and then footage of Kevin and Raymond not letting the officient finish his sentence before they say “I do”
i remember watching the first episode of season 4 where jake peralta — one of the main characters of the shows who could so easily be depicted as a toxically masculine cop who doesn’t “get” political correction or like, basic human decency in general — casually mentions the existence of transphobia in passing. the show had been fairly liberal and good at playing jokes for laughs instead of hurting people’s feelings, but this solidified my loyalty to the show and its brand of humor.
what’s more, jake mentions transphobia in connection with media content and delivers the line in such a way that it was only after seeing this post (literally months after the initial episode aired) that i realized people who are not queer or in the know about queer things would not find it funny because they wouldn’t understand it.
in short: jokes at the expense of others humanity is rarely, if ever, funny. consequently, b99 comes out with better hi-jinks and bigger laughs because they get it and work within those (not actually at all limiting) confines.
