this comic rubbed me the wrong way and I felt uncomfortable reading it and then I saw the source was plebcomics and I knew why
Well, that’s your fault. Quit telling artists what to do
I love that you went back to reblog this post a second time just so you could specifically say this to me as if you’re so smart, you’ve come up with the comeback of the century.
I am an artist. I enjoy headcanons and ocs just as much as anyone else but I’m not forcing them on anyone. the problem with this comic is that it’s a half assed, regurgitated excuse to not include diversity in their story. it’s really, not that hard to include that little slip of diversity in your characters or story, and pleb is just coming up with excuses as to why she shouldn’t- her shitty history of being a dick aside. not to mention the “fan” in her comic reacting to being told to make her own characters is some of the furthest shit I’ve ever seen. this comic is just a way for pleb to take a stab at “sjws” for something a radical probably only ever did once, pat herself on the back for it, and then move on to the next bullshitted excuse she decides to throw out there.
and I’m only replying to you once because not only is your url some of the stupidest shit I’ve ever seen, I can tell after scrolling your blog for 5 seconds that you’re an asshole to everyone. congratulations!
hi lancerdiarmuid. youve been reblogging the shit out of this post and i couldnt help but notice.
this comic is legit a direct quote-on-fuckin-quote of the sourced exchange i linked. im sorry that you seem to take issue with the fact that not everyone takes too kindly to having their creative works shit on, even if you dont think (aggressively) suggesting changes to said works counts as shitting on it.
another user commented in agreement with you, linking to a ridiculous article from a wildly bias “news” source (comicsalliance, if anyone cares, which is a hilarious joke of a site on its own since its whole owner/editor base is a bunch of nepotists with everything to gain by shilling each others comics) about why its every creative individuals mission to include diverse characters in their own creations. which you know, it’s not, but thats neither here nor there.
its nobody elses business to do “your” work for you. if you feel under-represented in comics, cartoons, stories, fiction, etc, start creating things you can identify with. it is absolutely insane to suggest that another artist, or writer, or whomever, who already have an established work, to change up THEIR work to better suit YOUR needs. you don’t go to a friends party and demand their change their cake from vanilla to chocolate just because you want chocolate. sure, you can request it, but they’re not obligated to humor that request. so, your options are what here? either dont go to the party because they dont have chocolate cake, OR, maybe bake your own chocolate cupcakes and bring it to the party yourself. maybe some people will love your fuckin chocolate cup cakes. maybe your chocolate cup cakes will be a big hit. never know unless you fuckin’ TRY instead of, iunno, throwing a big baby tantrum because there wasnt chocolate cake in the first place.
i hope that analogy makes sense to you and you dont take it as a literal fuckin suggestion about friends and party/cake and how your FRIENDS should just be CONSIDERATE of EVERYONES WANTS because that would just be another way of saying that you are entitled to be a bossy piece of shit who wants everything to be about themselves.
point is, is that no, you dont have the right to demand people include THIS or THAT in their works, and you sure as hell dont have the right to run a smear campaign against an individual because they didnt include THIS or THAT in their works at your “request”. you can ask, yes, but realize that their world doesnt necessarily revolve around you. realize that you have the creative power and ability to do your own thing and make your own works. i implore anyone who has ever felt slighted by an individual (or company, whatever) to, at the very least, try to make their own… representational, diverse…. thing.
… and then, you know, see how much you like it when someone barges in and makes some “suggestions” for your creations and then proceeds to lash out and accuse you of being a bigot or whatever because you didnt humor them.
i only reblogged this twice like over a week ago so im not sure why youre doing this (especially now???). i definitely wasnt “reblogging the shit out of it” but ok. i also had nothing 2 do with people agreeing with me and linking sketchy articles as sources so…. why not say this to them instead???
my point was that you shouldnt have to come up w excuses to NOT make diverse characters cause… thats pretty problematic. definitely my fault for not looking at the link, and that was a pretty ridiculous exchange you had. but the way you presented the issue in the comic made it sound like you just didnt want to make diverse characters, period. and ive seen the fights youve started in the (semi-recent) past and other issues youve run into AND how dramatic you tend to be in your comics so….. yeah.
i rly dont have the energy to argue with you right now especially when this argument is pretty old at this point and im confused as to why you targeted me in particular, but its whatever. have a nice day
Plebcomics is now harassing people who challenge her garbage
incredible
“harassing”
“challenge”
i dont think you know the meaning of either of those words lady
this reminds me of that guy who got angry because i didnt want to draw Luna the way he wanted it…
Writing is art.
Drawing is art.
Music is art.
modelling is art.
Almost any and all media forms are also a form of art.
Tell me this, would you walk up to Leonardo Da Vinci and tell him that you want him to draw more black people?
I don’t know if you would, but personally I think I’d fucking deck you if I saw you even try that.
Let me explain it to you simply.
Art is expression. An expression of the creator. Whether it be a story, or a character, their writing style or the curves of their pen or brush, the way they draw hair or hands, there is a REASON artists have different unique discernible styles and are encouraged to develop their own. BECAUSE THEIR ART IS THEM! Facets of them, pieces of them, their hopes, dreams, the long hours that they’ve worked to reach the point where they can create the work that they create.
And that should NEVER be sullied. Art should NEVER be sullied by outside influence. It comes from within. It comes from the heart and the mind in ALL it’s forms.
And you can dislike it. You can hate it. You can scream about it. GOOD! DO IT! Art is about expression. If the art has made you feel something, good or bad, that art has succeeded! And thats the point.
So let me say this part clearly, and this counts for movies, books, pictures, EVERY FORM OF MEDIA POSSIBLE….
IT IS ART. AND NO ONE…
NO ONE
HAS THE RIGHT TO DICTATE WHAT AN ARTIST DOES TO THEIR WORK OR IT STOPS BECOMING ART.
Plebcomics is right. And you, sir, need to step off.
Just gonna tack on that not supporting everything trans does not equate to transphobia
Transphobia is saying outright “I won’t write trans characters because I hate trans people.”
Transphobia is “All my characters are cis to spite trans people.”
Transphobia is not “My comics are my creations. If you’d like more trans characters, I encourage you to make some!” Honestly it’s really good advice because it’s not him saying he’s never gonna do it, it’s just him telling them If you don’t like what you see here, then go make what you enjoy!
There’s nothing stopping him from making trans characters in the future, he never gave us any reason to suspect that he’s a transphobe, he just says that what he writes is his own. And for that matter, the real question is: Why are people questioning what he writes? Is it really a requirement of life and art to write lgbt characters into everything? Why is not doing so an immediate act of phobia? Maybe some people just use straight or cis characters because it’s what they use/need to use? What’s with this hatred?
I HAVE GOTTEN THIS THOUGH AND IT IS BULLSHIT! My characters are (except for Indigo maybe) ALL CISHET and you know what? THAT’S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! Don’t try to make them gay by shoving ships at me, don’t tell me they’re trans by the way they look, and don’t tell me what I should do WITH MY OWN CHARACTERS WHO DON’T EVEN LISTEN TO ME IN THE FIRST PLACE!!
There are people out there who will give you shit for drawing lgbt-characters if you can’t write them right as well:p People write what they know.
What if the artist has stuff planned for that OC? Maybe they’re planning a great romantic plot for them… wouldn’t make a lot of sense to make them ace then now would it? :/
The whole reason I don’t have an LGBT character is because I’m afraid of not writing them well. I’m CisHet. I can’t identify with an LGBT character and therefore cannot write them as well. And would you really want someone not confident in their abilities writing one?
I’d also like to point out that a character is not and should not be defined by their sexuality. If you’re so shallow that you think that you can’t enjoy a character just because they’re not a sexuality you think they should be, then it’s an insult to the artist and the character themselves. That’d be like me saying “Boy I want to love Garnet but she’s made of two lesbians and I’m straight so I can’t like her.” It’s the same thing. “Boy I want to love Chip but she’s CisHet and I’m Trans so I can’t like her.” I’ve literally had people call me homo and transphobic because none of my characters were LGBT. It’s shallow and petty and a terrible reason to dislike an artist and a character.
tbh the mainstream narrative of “deep down i always knew” re: sexuality is really shitty bc though it may be true for some (maybe a lot of??) people it ends up making people (me) feel like they’re faking it somehow, when really you can never be “wrong” about your sexuality….bc it’s yours….
idk i’ve just been thinking a lot about how compulsory heterosexuality shaped my life bc 5 yr old, 11 yr old, 17 yr old, me definitely did not know ~deep down~ that i was gay so when i started to question things at age 19 i felt too old to be thinking about this kind of thing bc i should have Known by then
not to mention the fact that coming out is something that requires a lot of self certainty and confidence that is not required of you if you’re straight. like you have to proclaim to the world that you are something and bc there’s a zero tolerance policy for Being Wrong then you better know for certain when you choose to come out
how is screaming “I wanna suck your dick” to a band member you just met any different from someone catcalling you on the street
Read this Read it again and again
Applies to actors, athletes, and other famous people as well.
Just because you’ve been fantasizing about them forever doesn’t mean that in their eyes, you’re anything more than a very creepy stranger sexually harassing them
One time a fan gave the guy who played Lex Luthor in Smallville a box of sex toys, on stage.
males weren’t oppressed by the patriarchy for over all of time, so they don’t get the same protections against sexual harassment that females do CIS WHITE TRASH!
It took me way too long to work out that this wasn’t about relating to unintentionally awkward introductions involving saying the wrong thing when joining your high school marching band.
Hey tumblr! Did you know that if you suffer from depression / anxiety or any other mental illness, you can register your dog as an emotional support animal, making it illegal for a landlord to refuse to rent to you? That’s right. No breed restrictions, no weight restrictions, no matter what, they are not allowed to refuse.
No, no, please do not use that site. Please. Any site that charges a fee for this is a huge scam, all you will get is a meaningless piece of paper that your landlord can shrug off with no consequences. Unfortunately, the internet’s full of unscrupulous assholes who have no problem preying on disabled people.
Emotional Support Animals are a thing that your doctor can legitimately give you a prescription for, but you have to go through your doctor to have any leg to stand on and it isn’t a no-strings-attatched trump card over your building’s animal policies - you landlord has to make reasonable concessions, but they can still object if your animal is disruptive to other tenants or destructive of property. The law protects your right to have a companion animal to help you function, not your right to have a hundred and thirty pound furbaby you insist can do no wrong even while it’s eating holes in the walls and barking at the neighbor’s children.
If you rent your home and want to establish your pet as an emotional support animal, the Service Dog Central website has a page with advice for securing an emotional support animals in housing, including samples of what your letter to your landlord might look like, and how to write a “resume” for your pet to establish that it’s suitable as an ESA.
Please be careful and do your research - stick to websites associated with nonprofits and educational institutions, and don’t pay any money to anyone who isn’t your doctor or your lawyer. See also, the aforementioned unscrupulous assholes.
this comic rubbed me the wrong way and I felt uncomfortable reading it and then I saw the source was plebcomics and I knew why
Well, that’s your fault. Quit telling artists what to do
I love that you went back to reblog this post a second time just so you could specifically say this to me as if you’re so smart, you’ve come up with the comeback of the century.
I am an artist. I enjoy headcanons and ocs just as much as anyone else but I’m not forcing them on anyone. the problem with this comic is that it’s a half assed, regurgitated excuse to not include diversity in their story. it’s really, not that hard to include that little slip of diversity in your characters or story, and pleb is just coming up with excuses as to why she shouldn’t- her shitty history of being a dick aside. not to mention the “fan” in her comic reacting to being told to make her own characters is some of the furthest shit I’ve ever seen. this comic is just a way for pleb to take a stab at “sjws” for something a radical probably only ever did once, pat herself on the back for it, and then move on to the next bullshitted excuse she decides to throw out there.
and I’m only replying to you once because not only is your url some of the stupidest shit I’ve ever seen, I can tell after scrolling your blog for 5 seconds that you’re an asshole to everyone. congratulations!
hi lancerdiarmuid. youve been reblogging the shit out of this post and i couldnt help but notice.
this comic is legit a direct quote-on-fuckin-quote of the sourced exchange i linked. im sorry that you seem to take issue with the fact that not everyone takes too kindly to having their creative works shit on, even if you dont think (aggressively) suggesting changes to said works counts as shitting on it.
another user commented in agreement with you, linking to a ridiculous article from a wildly bias “news” source (comicsalliance, if anyone cares, which is a hilarious joke of a site on its own since its whole owner/editor base is a bunch of nepotists with everything to gain by shilling each others comics) about why its every creative individuals mission to include diverse characters in their own creations. which you know, it’s not, but thats neither here nor there.
its nobody elses business to do “your” work for you. if you feel under-represented in comics, cartoons, stories, fiction, etc, start creating things you can identify with. it is absolutely insane to suggest that another artist, or writer, or whomever, who already have an established work, to change up THEIR work to better suit YOUR needs. you don’t go to a friends party and demand their change their cake from vanilla to chocolate just because you want chocolate. sure, you can request it, but they’re not obligated to humor that request. so, your options are what here? either dont go to the party because they dont have chocolate cake, OR, maybe bake your own chocolate cupcakes and bring it to the party yourself. maybe some people will love your fuckin chocolate cup cakes. maybe your chocolate cup cakes will be a big hit. never know unless you fuckin’ TRY instead of, iunno, throwing a big baby tantrum because there wasnt chocolate cake in the first place.
i hope that analogy makes sense to you and you dont take it as a literal fuckin suggestion about friends and party/cake and how your FRIENDS should just be CONSIDERATE of EVERYONES WANTS because that would just be another way of saying that you are entitled to be a bossy piece of shit who wants everything to be about themselves.
point is, is that no, you dont have the right to demand people include THIS or THAT in their works, and you sure as hell dont have the right to run a smear campaign against an individual because they didnt include THIS or THAT in their works at your “request”. you can ask, yes, but realize that their world doesnt necessarily revolve around you. realize that you have the creative power and ability to do your own thing and make your own works. i implore anyone who has ever felt slighted by an individual (or company, whatever) to, at the very least, try to make their own… representational, diverse…. thing.
… and then, you know, see how much you like it when someone barges in and makes some “suggestions” for your creations and then proceeds to lash out and accuse you of being a bigot or whatever because you didnt humor them.
i only reblogged this twice like over a week ago so im not sure why youre doing this (especially now???). i definitely wasnt “reblogging the shit out of it” but ok. i also had nothing 2 do with people agreeing with me and linking sketchy articles as sources so…. why not say this to them instead???
my point was that you shouldnt have to come up w excuses to NOT make diverse characters cause… thats pretty problematic. definitely my fault for not looking at the link, and that was a pretty ridiculous exchange you had. but the way you presented the issue in the comic made it sound like you just didnt want to make diverse characters, period. and ive seen the fights youve started in the (semi-recent) past and other issues youve run into AND how dramatic you tend to be in your comics so….. yeah.
i rly dont have the energy to argue with you right now especially when this argument is pretty old at this point and im confused as to why you targeted me in particular, but its whatever. have a nice day
Plebcomics is now harassing people who challenge her garbage
incredible
“harassing”
“challenge”
i dont think you know the meaning of either of those words lady
this reminds me of that guy who got angry because i didnt want to draw Luna the way he wanted it…
Writing is art.
Drawing is art.
Music is art.
modelling is art.
Almost any and all media forms are also a form of art.
Tell me this, would you walk up to Leonardo Da Vinci and tell him that you want him to draw more black people?
I don’t know if you would, but personally I think I’d fucking deck you if I saw you even try that.
Let me explain it to you simply.
Art is expression. An expression of the creator. Whether it be a story, or a character, their writing style or the curves of their pen or brush, the way they draw hair or hands, there is a REASON artists have different unique discernible styles and are encouraged to develop their own. BECAUSE THEIR ART IS THEM! Facets of them, pieces of them, their hopes, dreams, the long hours that they’ve worked to reach the point where they can create the work that they create.
And that should NEVER be sullied. Art should NEVER be sullied by outside influence. It comes from within. It comes from the heart and the mind in ALL it’s forms.
And you can dislike it. You can hate it. You can scream about it. GOOD! DO IT! Art is about expression. If the art has made you feel something, good or bad, that art has succeeded! And thats the point.
So let me say this part clearly, and this counts for movies, books, pictures, EVERY FORM OF MEDIA POSSIBLE….
IT IS ART. AND NO ONE…
NO ONE
HAS THE RIGHT TO DICTATE WHAT AN ARTIST DOES TO THEIR WORK OR IT STOPS BECOMING ART.
Plebcomics is right. And you, sir, need to step off.
Just gonna tack on that not supporting everything trans does not equate to transphobia
Transphobia is saying outright “I won’t write trans characters because I hate trans people.”
Transphobia is “All my characters are cis to spite trans people.”
Transphobia is not “My comics are my creations. If you’d like more trans characters, I encourage you to make some!” Honestly it’s really good advice because it’s not him saying he’s never gonna do it, it’s just him telling them If you don’t like what you see here, then go make what you enjoy!
There’s nothing stopping him from making trans characters in the future, he never gave us any reason to suspect that he’s a transphobe, he just says that what he writes is his own. And for that matter, the real question is: Why are people questioning what he writes? Is it really a requirement of life and art to write lgbt characters into everything? Why is not doing so an immediate act of phobia? Maybe some people just use straight or cis characters because it’s what they use/need to use? What’s with this hatred?
I am Silver Tongue, I am an artist. I have many characters and you can check out my art in the art tag. I occasionally practice witchcraft though I don't do anything too complicated. I am girl 2 and don't know what else to put here.
