when i was like 9 i asked my mom what a fetish was and she said “uh..um..its when you love something a lot” and i told her i had a fetish for video games and she just said “no. you dont”
Called out for being a fake gamer by your own mom? Brutal
how does “this is not morally okay as a punishment” translate to “they shouldn’t be punished at all”????
I’m seeing multiple people making this assumption
Because most leftist treat illegal immigrants like they are pure little angels from heaven that only want a better life and can do no wrong when meny of them are drug dealers, ms13, rapists and crimmials. Not most, but not a small amount. I agree with you that taking children away from them just for entering the country is not only immoral but it doesn’t sound like it’s following proper leagal practices and if for any reason the us is taking a child away from their leagal guardian there should be more steps and paperwork than that. I don’t completely trust all those sources to report the situation in an unbiased matter, espesaly because it rellied on editorials. But if this is what’s going on it’s unethical and unprofessional. I think people should get Perment bans and/or from the US for repeat offences espesaly if they have a criminal background or other offeces.
You see, Trump’s whole dehumanization of immigrants is working. He’s painting the majority as rapists and criminals but
I’m sorry in what way are these MOTHERS rapists and serious criminals???? Isn’t it more logical to assume that it’s more likely going to be men without much in terms of family ties? These are people with children, the likelihood of them being dangerous criminals is very unlikely. These are clearly people seeking asylum for their family- again, in a country who has constantly bragged and prided itself on opening its arms to those who need sanctuary from oppression and violence in their own countries.
“Many of them are drug dealers” Oh so that makes it okay to ignore the actual innocent people who are seeking aid?
It is SO godamn dangerous to generalize and use it as an excuse for why it’s okay to harm completely innocent people. All it takes is someone slapping a generalization on a group for people to begin justifying immoral acts towards these people. This is the exact sort of thing that resulted in the Holocaust, and the erasure of Native Americans and Aboriginals. This is the exact reason an entire ethnicity is painted as ‘Terrorists’ when it was only extremists groups and not the people as a whole.
This is a common tactic called FEARMONGERING.
And it has resulted in the deaths and torture of millions of people throughout history.
Because when people are afraid, they can convince themselves ANY atrocity is justifiable. This is human nature, and you can learn more about it in Zimbardo’s book ‘The Lucifer Effect’ which goes in to detailed study over situations like a woman killing her own neighbors’ children because an extremist group convinced her and a good chunk of the village that these people were dangerous and needed to be killed. When people are told to be afraid, one of the first things they do is detach the human connection from the ‘threat’ so that it makes it easier to attack.
Trump is a deplorable human being and it’s terrifying how much his fear tactic is working on the ignorant and misinformed, the people who only care more about themselves than other people who, would rather just sit at home comfortably and deny that this country has any problems. Being anti-progress, I feel, is anti-American.
I don’t think meny Trump supporters deny the contrey has problems , witch is why the slogan “make America great AGAIN” Went over so well.
And I don’t think MOST illegal immigrants are extreamly violent criminals. I live in Arizona so I see people from Mexico first hand. And I will admit that there are problems with our border security, espesaly about profiling those who where here leagaly. If what’s being reported is true than I will say that’s unprofessional to take away children without a fair trial or paperwork first. If the kids are very clearly being mistreated then a trial might be in order if not just jail time for the parent and deportation.
If they are coming here for refuge or seeking asilem or citizenship they should go about it the leagal way. They are still breaking the law and they should not be reworded for that with citizenship. I think they should make it easier for people to get citizenship by filtering out those with a criminal background.
To the who thing about the kids though, do some research into MS13. What they do to kids they send across the border. Perhaps you won’t be a keen on sending kids after that. They are something to be afaid of.
okay but why does everyone keep circling around saying “but don’t reward them!”
I’m not
fucking
saying that
for the last time, all I am saying is taking someone’s child away is 100% inhumane and immoral regardless of if their immigration is illegal or not and “it’s illegal” is not an excuse for it.
Don’t act like not giving severe punishment equates to giving a reward. I said over and over there are other alternatives and there is no need for this other than fucking torturing the mothers of these children. Mothers who are NOT the problem in immigration because they are not rapists/murderers/drug dealers but more often people looking for aid.
“oh they commit a crime so whatever punishment they get, they deserve” is shit justice and again, as I keep saying, is the EXACT mentality what went in to the holocaust. Do you even know what getting in to america legally is like? How difficult it is? How many years it takes? It can take over 10 years! Someone with a little child in need cannot afford to wait that long, so mayb STOP demonizing everyone who dares to break the law in order to find freedom as some kind of problematic mongrels
“they did something illegal so they were asking for it” is more shit people keep saying.
No. These mothers are not doing this to get away with a crime, they are doing this to get away from something horrible. They were given no warning or indication this would happen. You can’t just pull up a new punishment for a law out of fucking nowhere without making people aware of it. And something on this level is 100% unnecessary, cruel, and lacking in any human decency because it serves literally no one. It does not help the child. It does not help the country. It does not stop immigration. It just makes our Government look like monsters.
And if you want America to be looked on by ther countries as the little baby country of spoiled monsters who like shoving their dicks up everyone’s asses, if you think this is what makes America great, then I don’t know what to say other than ‘I weep for the American dream if it rides on the suffering of others.’
Because they dont have a good argument so theyre presenting the situation as thoguh the solution is one of two extremes and if you arent for one extreme it must mean youre for the other.
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