i dont get how people are like “hmm, the republicans are trying to undermine democracy and stripping away the rights of people as well as spreading hate and violence? well im not gonna vote unless bernie is the democrat primary”

Imagine admitting years in advance that you just can’t field a decent opponent against a cheeto in wig and having the gall to demand others just surrender their vote to you out of pity.

Good God is this really the state of American democrats?

my priority is putting out the fire. then we can focus on rebuilding. the republicans are by far the biggest threat to democracy and they need to be voted out of office before we vote the democrats out of office in favour for independent parties.. voting independant will only split the votes and result in more republican terms.

That doesn’t make sense as you’ve explained it…don’t vote indy now but vote indy later, all you’re doing is delaying the inevitable.

You still have the core problem : the Democrat party seems fundamentally incapable of appealing to its own base and is viewed as rife with corruption..demanding people be feudal serfs and just give up their right to vote to their Democrat lords…and I gotta tell you, this message doesn’t seem to be working from what I can see..and in my head can’t work with an informed public. 

All you’re doing as I can tell is paving the way from Trump 2020.

>my priority is putting out the fire

>sends 3 clowns with seltzer bottles

clowns with seltzer water will be better than the clowns pouring gasoline on it that we currently have

You mean the ones who shit on a slandered anyone who didn’t like their candidate last time? The ones who have no stated goal other than fucking trump as much as they can instead of, you know, making the government work? The ones who are floundering because, after 4 years that should have been spent reflecting, they still can’t figure out that they fucked themselves the last time around?