lightweightkate

I’ve been cackling about this for like five minutes now

gehayi

He’s absolutely right.

Also, the Joker started killing innocents for fun and profit in Batman #1 (published April 24, 1940)  and has been killing his henchmen since at least 1975. 

(He poisoned a former employee named Dubek with a rare tropical disease. By the way, Dubek was in prison and was refusing to tell the prison administration squat about the Joker. So Dubek was completely loyal–out of fear, granted, but still loyal–and the Joker murdered him anyway.)

prismatic-bell

Don’t forget that in B:TAS, they weren’t allowed to show him straight-up murdering people, so he also canonically uses motherfucking nerve gas. Which is HORRIBLE AND INTERNATIONALLY ILLEGAL TO THE POINT THAT HAVING IT IS A WAR CRIME. Not even using it! Just having it!

Like. Your best-case scenario as a Joker henchman is that, when facing down the motherfucking Batman, you start crying and telling him you were trying to pay off your student loans, and he sends you home and the next day you get a phone call from Wayne Industries with a job offer. And then you have to hope the Joker doesn’t fucking find you.

armchair-factotum

Meanwhile working for Lex Luthor is basically just an Amazon job with a slightly higher chance of getting lightly shoved by Superman, which you could probably get a company insurance payout for if you pretend you’re actually trying to fight him first

prismatic-bell

NGL I feel like if you started crying because of your student loans while dealing with Superman he’d be like “hit me” and you’d be like “….what” and he’d be like “HIT ME, that way you can claim it’s a workplace accident” and then he’d knock you out.

Like he would 100% be onboard with helping you pay your loans. (And then he’d call Bruce and be like “I have somebody in Metropolis who needs a job….”)

mounmantaka

Lex luthor I thought was supposed to be a decent person just anti superman?

dainslefsblog

Come on now, you should know by now that rich business man = super evil person.

overlord-puffin

Ehhhhhhh it strongly depends on the continuity and the writer, but I’d say on the whole he’s definitely not a decent person. There are a couple where Lex is legitimately a good guy but is a villain on account of being incredibly paranoid about Superman. There’s probably even more where he’s an out and out cackling mad scientist. If I had to pin what I’d call his defining characterization, it’s someone who thinks of himself as a champion of humanity, but who in reality is quite self-centered, is willing blithely sacrifice people to advance his goals, abuses whatever power he has, and who acts out against Superman primarily because of an inferiority complex. The movie version of All Star Superman captured it pretty well:

Luthor, to Superman: “If it wasn’t for you, I could have saved the world!”
Superman: “If it had mattered to you, Luthor, you could have saved the world years ago.”
Luthor: “…You’re right.”

Lex Luthor: Man of Steel is another comic which I think does a beautiful job of building up and them brutally demolishing the “Lex Luthor is a decent guy to everyone but Superman” idea.

kansascity-marshwiggle

I seem to remember there was a comic at some point where the atmosphere was flooded with kryptonite so Superman had to leave for a year. When the kryptonite was gone he came back and went to Lex and was like “Okay, I was out of your hair for a year. Where are all the improvements to the human condition you said you could get done with me gone?” and Lex just didn’t have an answer because he’d still been doing supervillain stuff all year.

I don’t know what comic this was but I definitely remember this scenario happening?

greenygal

SUPERMAN 653:

For context, in this story Lex is trying to destroy Metropolis because they don’t appreciate him anymore. But it’s all Superman’s fault. Sure, Lex.

kansascity-marshwiggle

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